kashmiri pandits’s struggle

Kashmiri pandits are hindu minority population of Kashmir.Kashmiri Hindu community is a very peaceful community,crime free,with a literacy rate of 100% and are followers of peace and non-voilence.The origin and history of Kashmiri hindus traces back to thousands of years and are the original inhabitants of Kashmir and have lived in kashmir since thousands of years.However today this minority community is at the receiving end from both Terrorists backed by pakistan and Indian government who have constantly ignored them since the independance of India mainly because of vote bank politics…Kashmiri pundits were forced to migrate to different pats of India by terrorists backed by pakistan….thousands of kashmiri pandits were murdered  by these terrorists on the name of freedom struggle, within a short span of 3-4 months in 1990, which triggered the infamous migration to different parts of globe…Kashmiri pandits have been struggling all these years(18+ years) for their basic fundamental rights…. their right to live and die in Kashmir as their ansestors used to live and die…..Kashmiri pandits though minority in population have contributed a lot in different feild such as education,commerce,Judiciary system,politics,Health sector,Engineering feild,humanitarian work..etc..
As followers of peace and non-voilence,Their struggle has often been misinterpreted by sections of people who advocate voilent ways for attaining objectives…. kashmiri pundits struggle for peace and justice is a struggle of good over evil..If you beleive in the philosophy of peace and non-voilence…. if you beleive in philosophy of freedom of expression….If you beleive in humanity and justice..then support kashmiri pundits…..in their struggle for justice..create awareness..

98 Comments

  1. ranjeetkoul
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 9:59 am | Permalink | Reply

    “Better late than never”.
    Like any other Kashmiri Hindu I have been a calm spectator of the sufferings of kashmiri Pandits .At the same time I was keen to keep my eyes and ears open to know what is happening in Valley Vs sufferings of the fast dying community (Kashmiri pandits).

    I want to go back into history and see what is it that all of us are missing and reasons for sufferings of Kashmiri Hindus. History clearly indicates the decent of Kashmiri pandits had started form decades ago and that lack of Governments and even the pandit’s zeal to do any thing about it.

    In my child hood I have witnessed antinationalism on its helm and the small example is the celebrations when ever India would loose to Pakistan in a game of cricket and morn when India would win.

    This truth kept haunting us from last 45 years and our elders/Leaders could not get together and asked this question to concerned authorities that what is the price that Kashmiri Pandits as a community will have to pay for being nationalist and be proud of Tri-colour.

    Ultimately not first time but for the third time all Kashmiri pandits had to pay through their nose to be recognized as Indians all over world. 1989 saw us anguished getting killed brutally and we had no choice but to run for our lives.
    I don’t blame our community but it was a shame for the entire governance in India to see the pro Indians as refuges in their own country. The people who once owned the valley where forced to sleep on roadside and people who kept the Indian flag flying High in the valley were left into the hands of uncertainty and are forced to extinct.

    Talk of today’s event where mainstream political parties are talking of dual control of valley and are advocating the duel currency this is clearly the failure on the New Delhi’s part who did not respond to the aptly and adequately. Weak governance leads to the week Nation.

    The cultural fabric of Kashmir is lost the latest example is the revolt on the Amaranth Ji. land transfer. What massage does it carry one needs to be much thought full of the situation and decide?

    Amongst all we as the descents of the valley need to ask.
    1. It is not only the Kashmiri Muslims who aught to decide the future of the valley. Kashmiri Pandits have equal right to do so.

    We need to go beyond creating websites/NGO and come on the fore front. I don’t desire to be a leader but my humble request to all the Kashmiri Pandits youth not to repeat the mistake that our elder did and ask the authorities and use legitimate media to ask the right question.

    Why are we being deprived of the right to give our opinion and rights about future of valley.

    “Otherwise many revolts like Amaranth Ji are waiting to happen. “

  2. manishzijoo
    Posted November 15, 2008 at 10:15 am | Permalink | Reply

    Dear Ranjeet Koul.

    You are correct we have to do some thing beyond creating websites/NGO and come on the fore front. If the people like you will come forward definitively
    some thing will happen if you think to do something seriously please mail at pkyf@rediffmail.com.

  3. Gary
    Posted November 28, 2008 at 11:44 am | Permalink | Reply

    I am not a Kashmiri Pandit but I truely understand your problems. Also, I think its a more widespread problem. Islamic fundamentalism is like a virus. Why don’t they just ask themselves a question as to why they have problems with everyone, be it Hindu, Christian, Jew, Buddhists. Anyone intelligent would be able to conclude that they are the problem. India has tolerated them for centuries. The Indus river after which this great country is named after is in Pakistan now. That’s a shame.

  4. Nikhil
    Posted December 6, 2008 at 7:45 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I am not a pandit and I cannot say that I can ever understand what has been your plight. But I am a concerned citizen of this country. I am writing here to tell you that Benazir Bhutto will be given the United Nations Human Rights Award posthumously on Dec 10. I have already written to the UN asking that why has she been chosen. I urge you all to send an email to them as well. It wont stop her from getting the award but at least we can make an effort in telling the world that she was not a champion of Human Rights as she is being portrayed.

    • Achal
      Posted July 9, 2011 at 1:27 am | Permalink | Reply

      What does this have to do with Kashmir?

  5. reenay
    Posted January 8, 2009 at 7:26 am | Permalink | Reply

    i have a plan to get back kashmir.if u kashmires realy ready to do any thing than most welcome.my email id is (reenaysingh@gmail.com)
    belive me it’s posible………….
    this is not a simple msg…..ioo%true not o joke
    come now………..

  6. Posted March 1, 2009 at 7:28 am | Permalink | Reply

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  7. Posted May 15, 2009 at 10:18 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Dear Pandits Brothers,
    I don’t want to hurt your sentiments .But as Kashmiri Muslim who has being brought up in kashmir.Truth is truth making stories will not lead you any where to be quite honest you have made tremendous mistakes in the past .During the pa than , Sikh and Dogra rule you made life of the muslim so miserable that they have to leave the place permantely to settle elsewhere.To this accusation that your main profession which still exist is ‘Money lending”This way you looted thousands of property and land of muslims.Because the poor muslim could not repay your debt.You where hand in gloves with above tyrant rulers.During the Famines of 1831 and 1877 to 1879.You played on the helplessness of Kashmiri Muslims that they had no option but to leave their homes and villages permanently their property were seized by kashmiri pandits.I have my own story I got the job at than Grindlays bank srinagar.The majority of employee were kashmiri pandits .They treated me so badly that i had to apply for the job in middleeast.Particulerly Mehindernath Raina ,V N Gurtoo and their gang in the EMPLOYEES UNION.I know someting came from my heart and within few years their was annihilation of the Kashmiri pundits. If you ask anybody in the world even Indians they have got negative attitudes towards you.Even Indians have got sayings “If their is the snake and kashmiri pandits coming towards you first kill the Kashmiri Pandit and than the snake”Many Indian friends have told me like this.Case is that of the Neerja Matto.A student who was killed mercilessly.IN DELHI

    • Dewani
      Posted July 7, 2011 at 5:04 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Hello Imtiaz,
      Are you son of late Mr.Gulam Nabi(Deposits Officer) in Grindlays Bank.Your father was very close to me and we both respected each other.I hope you too will have respect for all those who do good to all.You know there are a very few people who think ill of others .They have no religion.You can find them in Hindus, Muslims,Christains,Sikhs etc. etc.Never mind petty things.Thank almighty Allah who gave you a better job opportunity in Middle East.Every one can’t dream of better life.Be greatful to Almighty.
      your ex. colleague of Grindlays Bank
      ML Dewani
      San Francisco,
      USA

    • Achal
      Posted July 9, 2011 at 1:34 am | Permalink | Reply

      What a bunch of nonsense. To have muslims crying foul of being mistreated is the ultimate irony. Reach back into your history (all over the world actually) and take account of how badly muslims have treated others. And India has been the biggest casualty of muslim invaders. Discrimination happens everywhere, including within India and among Hindus too. That’s human nature I suppose. But forget history – have a look at my other post on the next course. That is: any muslim can leave kashmir but they will not take an inch of land with them. Go to the disaster next door if you want. Be thankful you are where you are. Try fighting to take back the rest of kashmir stolen from India; then you’ll see how much better things could be for you. But if you fight to separate be prepared to suffer the consequences.

    • ambika
      Posted May 6, 2015 at 7:30 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Your views are dangerous and full of distortion and bias. You have a personal grievance which you are attempting to put into an historical context. More respect and tolerance is needed.

  8. Umar Sheikh
    Posted June 12, 2009 at 12:10 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Dear Imtiyaz,

    I take strong objections to your comments made towards Kashmiri pandits. It may be true that you were treated badly by some Kashmiri pandits but that gives you no right to stereotype them or make perverted comments like to call or justify their annihilation, there will be plenty of people in your life like friends and family who might have given you a hard time, will you think about them in the same way….I am sure you will not!!!
    I agree with you that Kashmiri pandits always collaborated with the occupiers, be it pathans, sikhs and dogras, infact in dogra regime no muslim could apply for a Govt job nor join the army, which explains why Kashmiri muslims had such a low literacy rate as there was no incentive to study.A Kashmir pandit having a middle school education was guaranteed a govt job during dogra rule.

    The point I am trying to make is that there is plenty of blame to go around but will that end our problems. We should end blame game and respect each other and find ways to integrate again.It has happened in the past during the reign of Zain-ul-Abideen (Budshah) and I see no reason why it cannot happen again. The only thing is that we have to make it happen by finding common ground between the two communities and by injecting some optimism in our lives.

    Regards,
    Umar

  9. vinni
    Posted August 18, 2009 at 5:30 pm | Permalink | Reply

    good work, i really liked the blog

  10. Ajay
    Posted September 23, 2009 at 12:31 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Dear Umar Sheikh,
    Really appreciate your comments, poeple like you will certainly unite us one day…..

    Regadrs

  11. Ashwin Sharma
    Posted January 24, 2010 at 11:23 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Dear Umar and Imtyaz

    How how different you views are.The whole of India has suffered due to this kind of thinking.Current political seen in India is as diverse as both of your views are like.
    May be Pundits would have treated Muslims badly in past but so are the muslims doing to pundits now. So where is the difference ? Any way neither Muslims are at peace in Kashmir.

    Only way out is Full integration with the rest of India and be partners in the prosperity and growth.

  12. Aayushi Raina
    Posted February 19, 2010 at 1:03 pm | Permalink | Reply

    kashmiri pandits…
    Naam hi kaafi hai……..

    • Ashish The Great Kashmiri Pandit
      Posted November 22, 2014 at 9:10 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Sahi bola apne aayushi sharma kashmiri pandits ka naam hi kaafi hein .

  13. Idreas
    Posted April 26, 2010 at 2:40 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Well well well some people have got a huge heart burn here atleast what i ll say….
    Mr.Pandits the first thing no one forced u to leave the valley…Forgot the venomous plan of Governor Jagmohan who had planned to cleanse Kashmir n make it hindu majority state???
    there are pandit families still living in prosperity here in the Valley amid all the chaos no one harmed them….yeah Kashmiri pandits were killed some time back….n guess who killed them INDIAN ARMY(witnesses were Kashmiri Pandits only who were later gagged to silence)

    Kashmiri pandits have contributed to kashmir in the field of academics to such an extent that praising it in a few words will be an insult to it….but at the same time people from the same community exploited poor Muslim Kashmiri Peasants in the name of Jagirdari,forced labour n all….

    So, better look at your flaws first & please dont spread any false propaganda that you were whipped out of Kashmir….

    How many Kashmiri pandits have lost their lives becoz of the turmoil since 89 ???It is 219(TWO HUNDRED NINETEEN) while as the number of Kashmiri Muslims killed since 89 is 100,000 (One Lakh)…

    So,who has suffered??

    • Ashish The Great Kashmiri Pandit
      Posted November 22, 2014 at 9:19 pm | Permalink | Reply

      i think u r wrong idreas.totally wrong most propably . there r so many kashmiri pandits families who were killed. Those who were not killed were forced to convert into muslims by the kashmiri muslims. those who did not convert into muslims had to escape from there and migrate to differrent places in india.many had to go abroad also.so u r noone to blame we kasmiri pandits.u all muslims had made the life of kashmiri pandits hell on earth .and i m sorry if i have hurt the feelings of any of the kashmiri muslims or any1.

  14. Idreas
    Posted April 26, 2010 at 2:43 pm | Permalink | Reply

    And not to forget becoz of the crocodile tears u cry all over India the Government of India has given you a special reservation every where called the MIGRANT QUOTA…..

    And Kashmiri Muslims have also got a special Quota India Calls it TERRORIST QUOTA….

    • Ashish The Great Kashmiri Pandit
      Posted January 16, 2015 at 10:21 pm | Permalink | Reply

      i totally agree with u

  15. Azad
    Posted April 26, 2010 at 4:29 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Govt statistics claim 16,000 lives have been lost in J&k during last 20 years of insurgency…Dead men don’t talk and don’t reproduce especially when in Graves…or do they?
    Dude look inside,the so called leaders like Yasin malik and Old fox geelani have made a killing out of Azadi movement much to your disappointment.How come yasin Malik has become a owner of a shopping mall.What is his mode of income?If you don’t know do some digging.
    Geelani sahib kya kya kehna.Old man still draws his pension as being an former MLA of kashmir and he is supposedly fighting a jihad against India..what an irony!!
    stop telling your filmy lines about kashmiri pandits..Jagirs and jagirdars..these are all cock and bull stories and have nothing to do against facts..
    Dude,who is controlling the carpet trade in Kashmir.Merchants who were either syeds or muftis..you want to see discrimination, go and see how much local artisans are getting for making kaleen and how much syeds and muftis are getting..that is what I call discrimination…

  16. Idreas
    Posted April 26, 2010 at 5:40 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I dont take Yasin Malik as a leader he is an Indian parolee so is so called Mirwaiz..why doesnt INdia expose them if they know every thing about them who owns what n bla bla crap??? becoz they are the same people who have been strategically placed to quell the Freedom Struggle…Geelani used to take pension he clarified that 2 years back n i dont support Geelani either…

    Jagirdari system was abolished by sheikh Abudullah thats the only good thing he did for kashmir…

    India still is desperate to change the demography of Kashmir the latest stunt being the 8% job reservation bill…but Insha Allah India will never succeed in its dirty plans….

    Dont talk shit here i know the cheap bureaucracy Indian babus play with Kashmir….

    • Posted July 13, 2016 at 2:52 am | Permalink | Reply

      Sir are you a kashmiri Muslim? May be yea. So let me know if you are so proud of yourself why haven’t you as a community has been able to produce Abdul kalam azad our ex president. You guys can talk day in and day out about what had happened with your ancestors. But have you ever thought of the day when your children will come into picture. What do you want to show them this burning picture of Kashmir.? Kashmir was a heaven once. We Indians want to restore the same and I bet you can’t stop 125 millions of us in doing so. Kyuki ye to Allah bhi kehte hai ki neki karne wale ke sath to khuda bhi jud jata hai…and jannat ko jannat banana konsi neki SE kam hai…aap chahe jitni bhi bure lafzo ko apna lo…chahe jitne gaali delo…ho to Bhai hi…chalo maaf kiya…I hope u realise your mistake before it’s too late…

  17. Idreas
    Posted April 26, 2010 at 5:46 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Aizi Begam, 72, of Maisuma whose son Shabir Ahmad was among 52 persons who were massacred by CRPF troopers this day on January, 21,1990 at Gaw Kadal remembered him with tears, as people offered prayers, and shouted pro-freedom slogans at the spot to mark the massacre’s 17th anniversary.

    “I am proud of my son. Before achieving martyrdom he saved lives of many people in the procession,” said Aizi, holding Shabir’s photograph, sobbing as her son Zahoor Ahmad consolded her.

    “Troops fired many bullets at Shabir who came in way of a trooper firing indiscriminately at hundreds of unarmed peaceful protesters,” Zahoor said.

    Aizi Begum’s only regret is that she couldn’t see Shabir’s face before he was buried. “Government had imposed a curfew after the incident. I wanted to kiss his head; she made a proud mother,” she said.

    Scores of people, including the relatives of the victims offered prayers at the spot. A memorial in the form of a big canvas with image of a soldier pumping bullets with a machine gun in the chest of a civilian was hung from a wall near the massacre site. A graphic narration of the massacre has been drawn on the canvas.

    Muhammad Yaqoob who lost his father Haji Ali Muhammad in the massacre said, “The people who were massacred were demonstrating against the molestation of women at Chotta Bazar a day before. They had marched on many streets peacefully and were demanding action against the troops accused of the molestation of the women, but when they reached Gaw Kadal, they were killed like flies.”

    Yaqoob said his father had locked them up in their house and himself joined the protesters. “He told us ‘you stay at home, I will go with the protesters’. At home we heard continous rattle of fire and several hours later I went to the spot and saw the bodies lying on the bloodied road,” he said.

    Zulima Mukhtar, sister of Abdur Rauf who took 52 bullets on his chest said, “It is high time we take the cause for which Rauf and 51 others laid their lives to its conclusion. But for that we must all be sincere.”

    Where in Kashmir were pandits subjected to this kind of treatment…

    During the Amarnath Land Row the same Kashmiri people who have been labelled as anti-National elements n terrorists fed hundreds of yatris while whole of Kashmir was shut …why dont you refer that????

    This is height of Hypocrisy…..

  18. Azad
    Posted April 26, 2010 at 8:23 pm | Permalink | Reply

    You know what hurts most, when your own people go against you.Yaqoob,shabir and Aizi begum were allegedly killed by CRPF/armed forces.Were they Kashmiri’s? answer is “No”.I am sorry for all the killings and as a human being,I sympathize with the families of victims..
    But who hounded Kashmiri Pandits when we were targeted in jan 1990 by the zealots who beleived they were waging Jihad, Who is Bitta Karate? is he a non-kashmiri.You should have watched him on TV.He was boasting his cowardly deeds of killing innocent and unarmed Kashmiri pandits as his duty.Duty towards whom? his masters in pakistan.who raped and cut sarla Bhatt,a nurse working with soura institute into two pieces? The culprits were all our blood brothers whose ancestors had changed their faith to Islam.
    We were victimized by our own brothers.Not all of Kashmiri muslims are like them,but the majority kept mum ,because of the fear of gun..
    Who are deciding and announcing whether KP’s should come back or not..people like sallaudin…who are primarily responsible for our exodus..I don’t doubt your intentions,you may be a very good man,but when it comes to decision making you are a mere helpless spectator…
    we are both in the midst of a war,and both of us are on the opposites.you are right at your own place…but so am I…i

    • Ranjeet Koul
      Posted April 23, 2011 at 8:59 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Azad

      It never happened before 1989 and what ever happened in Elections one of the CRPF guys or Kashmiri Pandits where responsible if that happened at all. N.C your own People. What did we do ???????????????????????????? hundreds died in Jammu because of Sun Stroke .( Heat If you don’t know what it means ) what was there fault

  19. Idreas
    Posted April 27, 2010 at 12:53 am | Permalink | Reply

    Have you heard about the Ikhwan Raaj???Mum kana??the renegades let loose by Indian Govt. on Kashmiris???
    That was the darkest phase in the history of Kashmir

    That night was a misery. We heard his desperate cries, his pleas to spare his life, the heart rattling moans of his mother and echoing sobs of his hapless father. Amidst this helplessness and desperation he was taken. He must have been in the middle of a sweet dream as he was picked up from his bed to which he never returned. We all shut our doors and windows, swallowed even our murmurs and put off our lights, lest someone would take us and our near ones too – from our? Cosy beds. That family cried alone that night, no one could dare to go near that house – people feared for their own lives. A hazy morning turned into a bleeding one as the body of my neighbour – a young athletic boy was found in nearby “Malkah”. Ikhwanis did it we were told. That night terrorizes me still and the guilt of inaction on my part that night scolds my conscience every moment. I do not dare to look straight into the eyes of my deceased neighbour’s parents even now, more than fifteen years after that unfortunate incident!
    This incident happened barely a few months after a relative of ours was murdered in the same circumstances by gunmen belonging to the same cult. A young handsome boy in his teens from Pampore was the only son of his noble parents. He was mercilessly dragged along the saffron fields on an ill-fated night and killed. Ikhwanis did their job well to let a family suffer for ever! Pampore, I am told, has seen more gruesome incidents than the one in which our relative was killed. Fields were decorated more often by human blood than by blossoming saffron flowers!
    Were these boys defiants, stone pelters, or what? Gunmen I am sure, they were not. And even if they were – was this the way to deal with them? Did someone hear these boys ever? Where is justice? These uncomfortable questions would agitate me often but with time I learnt to digest these harsh anecdotes possibly. I got desensitized.
    These two incidents were lying there in my memory shelf till I got to know about the infamous Moma Kanna and his famous Padma award. As TV channels flashed Kanna’s pictures, innocent faces of two boys smeared with blood who were killed by the likes of Moma Kanna stumbled from the shelf and flashed before my eyes. “For what fault were we killed”? they seemed to be asking. Before I could think of an answer to their query, another face appeared on the television in the inset picture with Kanna. This face, a well known Muslim intellectual, an ex-bureaucrat with the Jammu & Kashmir Govt., an expert on Kashmir affairs-was playing with words to explain his viewpoint for recommending Kanna for the prestigious Padma award. This person knows the trajectory of Kashmir’s tragedy, its giver, executer and its sufferer. He is supposed to be an interlocutor also. Can he pretend innocence? He has written a book on Kashmir – the theme I guess is peace. Awarding Moma Kanna a Padma is perhaps the first step towards achieving that peace!!! No wonder Kanna has been recommended!
    We would not ask the politicians as to why they recommended Kanna. For them “Everything is fair in love and war”. In their love for power, they betrayed the nation, befriended the likes of Kanna and Kuka Parray and enjoyed the power over the powerless.
    Ikhwani movement represents the darkest phase in the history of Kashmir. “Sarkar Nawaz Bandook Bardar” as Ikhwanis were popularly called, represented a special class of gunmen who could plunder, loot, rape or do as “Sarkar” wished them to. Their actions had a special “Sanction”. Their acts too barbaric for a civilized society were rewarded handsomely then, (they even made it to the Legislative Assembly) and are awarded now with Padma for instance. Thanks to those honourable civil servants who recommended them. The ones who forgot how Kashmiris helped them in their tragedies whether it was after near fatal accidents or other hiccups!
    Sadam was hanged on an Eid day – his hanging gave all sensible Muslims a feeling of humiliation, subjugation and sprouted the thorns of hatred against America for which the seeds were sown much earlier and Moma Kanna, the Padma awardee, was honoured for massacring and torturing the innocent. What does the nation of India expect from Kashmiris?

    And talking about Bitta Karate he is no role model for any sane Kashmiri adult…I condemn Killings of INNOCENT PEOPLE…..

    I condemn the Killings of sikhs in chittisinghpora by allegedly unidendified gunmen(WHY WASNT AN INVESTIGATION LAUNCHED TO IDENDIFY THE CULPRITS)

    I condemn the killing of bihari laborers in Mir Bazar Islamabad(Anantnag) again by unidentified gunmen why wasnt this probed when i ve personally met witnesses who CLAIM that the laborers were lined against the boundary wall of their house & murdered in cold blood by INDIAN ARMY by spraying N number of bullets on them…..

    I condemn the killing & harassment of Kashmiri across this LARGEST DEMOCRATIC & SECULAR NATION of the world….

    U cant forget a one Sarla Bhatt how can you expect us to forget hundreds of such or even worse incidents???

    OFFICIAL STATEMENT:The Jammu and Kashmir government on March 24 2010 said 219 Kashmiri Pandits were killed by militants since 1989 while 24,202 families were among the total 38,119 families which migrated out of the Valley due to turmoil.

    AND THIS FIGURE WAS PRESENTED BY RAMAN BHALLA…

    As the present Govt. is to the root Pro-India dont gimme any crap that this FIGURE IS BIASED OR FALSE….

    And According to the same report 808 Pandit families consisting of 3,445 people were still living in the Valley.THESE FAMILIES NEVER MIGRATED…..

    Were these 808 families hurt or mistreated by anyone???
    Obviously they were not otherwise THE GREAT INDIAN MEDIA would projected it as an issue of NATIONAL SECURITY n referred to such an event as TALBANISATION if GOD FORBID ANY SUCH EVENT HAD OCCURRED…

    So dont go crying foul all over the world that you people were driven & whipped out of valley…

    we have lost 1000 times more people than your community has…every single day somehow an innocent Kashmiri is slayed…

    God Bless Kashmir & Kashmiris & Show Kashmiris the Right Path..
    Amen

    • Pal
      Posted October 7, 2014 at 6:10 am | Permalink | Reply

      I am not a Kashmiri.But I am deeply troubled by the plight of Kashmiris be it Hindus or Muslims.Its not about religion.Its about humanity which seems lost.People are blaming each other based on what happned in the past but in this way it just becomes a vicious Circle.I dont know Kashmir should be independent or in India.I just know it should be peaceful, where children can play like every other part of the world.Where innocents are not killed because of mortar shelling across the border.I just pray to God for that day to come soon.& I really liked ur views.Hope every single person on this earth thinks based on humanity & not religion

  20. Qazi Tauseef
    Posted April 27, 2010 at 11:11 am | Permalink | Reply

    I salute idreas 4 his views.. Its writting written on walls dat sum 2lac kashmiri innocent muslims have been cold murdered by so called protectors of d nation(indian forces).. who is gona repay for that… if you have 1 women raped(sarla bhatt).. Indian forces have raped thousands of kashmiri daughters.. If you have got tens of kashmri pandiths killed we have given lacs of youth massacered… If you have some dozen of children orphaned we have got thousands of children orphaned.. And much more… Its all due to indian’s draconian laws to muzzele the voice of kashmiris.. How long will they continue doin this wid us.. You people just cry a foul for your return and dont think about the fate of kashmit nation..it has been done by your own puppet Jagmohan that you were forced to leave kashmir.. Why you people forget that kashmiris kept you people always standing on thie chests rathet than land… InshAllah no sooner we will achieve freedom… Aameen… N no ill power can stop us…we are having Global power and dats Allah with us.. Mind you people..

    • Ajai
      Posted May 7, 2010 at 10:42 am | Permalink | Reply

      My reply is to Mr.Qazi T, this is actully true very disappointed that people in Kashmir has suffered badly so are the people from other parts of world,armed conflict always come with all these odds. Can any one be sure that no civilion was killed when PAK army raided wazirstan or Lankan army raided Jafna.But can we really think and understand who is respobile for blood shed in kashmir, who has invited Indian Army from barracks and borders to deep into villages and every street of srinagar. Has any one seen army in such a fashion before 1989.
      yes there is a cause, but same could be resolved with non voilent movement also. why blood every where.Even if we think army man is also son, brother,father of some human being and they would get the same pain as others get.

      For crimes done on either side, it should be taken seriously by people, adminstration and popele responsible should be punshied.

      Pakistan is most respobile for all these, had PAK not send tribals to kashmir, probably Kashmir would have been with same status as it was before 1947.

    • zorawer singh
      Posted June 24, 2010 at 10:38 am | Permalink | Reply

      toh bhi mara gah sala. bastard sons of arabs. worshipping shiva in mecca. sala know the facts of history.

      • yasir
        Posted June 29, 2010 at 9:10 am | Permalink

        please singh sahab,,,if you deserve to be called that,get your facts right.there is nothing in mecca that the muslims worship.

    • Posted July 13, 2016 at 2:57 am | Permalink | Reply

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  21. Azad
    Posted April 27, 2010 at 5:25 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I am also talking about official statement,16,000 people have been killed since insurgency, and the same report was announced by Raman Bhalla on the same date.You can’t rubbish his claims either!!
    Have we been driven out of Kashmir? yes we have been..In early 20th centurt 1 million Kp’s lived in Kashmir valley,Today by your own words around 3000 are left.Now if that is not driven out,then probably new dictionary has to be invented which can suit your taste…I lakh is merely an exaggeration,Leave one lakh,just give me 20 thousand names and I will be the first KP post 1990 to side with your cause..
    As far as padam shri controversy..I am in agree with you..It is a shame on Indian part to give padam shree to such persons whose history is stained in blood of his brothers…

  22. Posted May 29, 2010 at 6:08 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Ramdev Baba will give Justic to Kashmiri Pundits!!!

    • Ashish The Great Kashmiri Pandit
      Posted January 16, 2015 at 10:25 pm | Permalink | Reply

      even though i m a kashmiri pandit i dont think he will but if he gives very good

  23. zorawer singh
    Posted June 24, 2010 at 10:35 am | Permalink | Reply

    some muslims people writing on the blog are nonsense rascals,
    kashmir is a fight of islam versus hinduism. this truth has the facts, nothing else. thiese bastard allahs, sala ko yeh nahi pata, your forfathers were also hindus. followed a tribal faith of arabs.
    bastards. darpok muslims converted. pigs

  24. gourav sharma
    Posted August 18, 2010 at 8:00 pm | Permalink | Reply

    As we all know that now days kashmir has become the most dangerous place in the world.its all happened just because of few stupid muslims who think that JIHAAD is only the way to reach ALLAH.

  25. gourav sharma
    Posted August 19, 2010 at 9:42 pm | Permalink | Reply

    get ready to take kashmir back at any cost

  26. vinod
    Posted August 29, 2010 at 2:04 pm | Permalink | Reply

    if people in kashmir have got killed and army and crpf is in all corners of kashmir it is because pakistani agents with kashmir seperatists started killing ,bombing and cleaning process of kasmiri pundits and now same is doing with kashmiri sikhs.before first bombing there was no policing or army in streets.although kashmiri pundits were treated like shit in the streets then also,but still everthingh was running smoothly till some disgruntled politicians with the help of pakistani agents created havok in kashmir for which present generation is also suffering.i am sure no body in kashmir knows what is azadi they are asking.they can never be azad with pakistan china taliban alquida all ready to occupy it.it is my advice to all kashmiri brethern to shun voilence ,not to follow pakistani agents and start earnest talk with india so that all security forces can be removed from kashmir and then welcome kasmiri pundits who are your brothers (as you were also kashmiri hindus before most of you converted)and pass life peacefully and with prosperity.india will do anything for your growth with even one call.they consider kashmir their head and no body can cut his head and remain alive.

  27. rahul
    Posted January 7, 2011 at 11:21 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I don’t think all u guys r telling tru stories….
    What the actual reasons were behind all this voilence????
    If any body amongst u can provide some proofs, I’ll appreciate that!!!

  28. Achal
    Posted January 15, 2011 at 9:30 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I’d like to make a very clear-cut proposal as a summary of the policy we should have for J&K:
    1. The state of Jammu & Kashmir or any part thereof will never be allowed to separate from India
    2. If anyone wants ‘freedom’ from India, they are free to leave but will not take an inch of land with them
    3. All displaced Kashmiri natives will retain the right to vote (in absentia if necessary) and own property in the state
    4. The state’s law and constitutional status will be on parity with the other states of India (at a near future date) That is, abrogation of article 370.
    5. The only remaining issue is the restoration of the state’s original boundary of August 1947 to Indian control from Pakistan and China
    End of story.

  29. Achal
    Posted January 15, 2011 at 10:12 pm | Permalink | Reply

    For all the comments posted above, I’d like to give a single response. Let’s say the ‘balance sheet’ of atrocities on both sides (Muslim and Hindu/India) is equal. Now let’s face reality.

    Pakistan is a declining, failed state. India is a risen power. India and Indians will never give up J&K. Since ancient times, it has always been Hindu/Indian (just as Pakistan has been). But the ‘Sindhu’ land is now Pakistan and that’s history. So if anyone from India is unhappy and feels they need to connect with their religious brethren in muslim Pakistan, they are free to leave. We’ll even buy them a ticket. Just go. And you will take only what you can carry with you – and not an inch of land.

    When you suffer at the hands of Indian security, you should ask yourself why? if you instigate, commit crimes, create law & oder problems, you will pay the consequences. Security forces have a very stressful and difficult job to do and if you play with that short fuse, you will suffer. That’s the nature of law and order all over the world and throughout history. In war, bad things happen, so it’s up to you to give up this jihad war-like mentality. Because no matter what, you will not take J&K anywhere. It’s tha land of temples, sages and Indian civilization. Just because you were in power once, doesn’t mean you have the right to destroy the temples and culture. This has been the pattern of muslim invaders throughout history and the world. How many examples do you need? How would you like it if someone dropped a bomb on mecca?

    So stop your nonsense and live peacefully. Do something with the God given mind and energy to uplift yourself and your people. The path of jihad and islamic radicalism is not going to take you anywhere – not even to the dozens of virgins in heaven. The mullahs are fooling you. Don’t you see the condition of muslim countries all over the world? Even the oil they sit on (the source of much of their wealth) was not their creation. What has your religion created except death and misery all over?

    Your religion is evil. Maybe that’s the problem of all your ills. So do something for your children – don’t raise them as muslims. And teach them to build a Kashmir better than its glorious past. And be thankful you live in India which has always been a tolerant society. But don’t test its patience. Ultimately the good fight will win – that has been the credo of all Indic religions.

    • Ranjeet Koul
      Posted April 23, 2011 at 8:54 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Good One keep them coming . The Issue is this that the hatred in Kashmir for India is not in heart of masses in valley but in pockets of people like S. A.S. Geelani Whenever it is been about Money and power the humanity takes back seat . History is a true witness.
      Regards
      Ranjeet

  30. Posted February 28, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Permalink | Reply

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  31. Achal
    Posted March 22, 2011 at 6:13 pm | Permalink | Reply

    An ingenious example of speech and politics occurred recently in the United Nations Assembly that made the world community smile..

    A representative from India began: ‘Before beginning my talk I want to tell you something about Rishi Kashyap of Kashmir, after whom Kashmir is named. When he struck a rock and it brought forth water, he thought, ‘What a good opportunity to have a bath.’ He removed his clothes, put them aside on the rock and entered the water. When he got out and wanted to dress, his clothes had vanished. A Pakistani had stolen them.’

    The Pakistani representative jumped up furiously and shouted, ‘What are you talking about? The Pakistanis weren’t there then.’

    The Indian representative smiled and said, ‘ And they say Kashmir belongs to them. And now that we have made that clear, I will begin my speech.’

  32. wellwisher
    Posted April 15, 2011 at 1:37 pm | Permalink | Reply

    It is universal truth, we are entitled to live on this earth from the time of our birth till our last breath, the four days of life we live here can be made a pleasure or gruesome. We take birth naked and we die, we can carry nothing with us it is the nature of human. Why do we forget this and fight amongst ourselves be it hindu or muslim or follower of any other faith. Just like one puts up with every individual in a family whether one likes them dearly or not, in a society we should harmoniously as long as we live. Is anybody happy with all this irrespective whether one is born or living in Kashmir? No it hurts, ask oneself which eye is precious and you will get the answer.

  33. Ranjeet Koul
    Posted April 23, 2011 at 8:43 pm | Permalink | Reply

    It is important to note we as Kashmiri Pandits have to reside our faith in one leader and converge all our active orginisations into one . We tend to wait for some thing happening in kashmir and then suddenly realize that we are form valley.We have to proactively demand what is our right. My urge is that forst step is to restore our tempels which just about standing . we have to create and orginisation which would rehablitate and keep mantaning them . Replies and intrested ppl are welcome

  34. Posted May 3, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Permalink | Reply

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  35. bhaaratiya
    Posted September 1, 2011 at 10:46 pm | Permalink | Reply

    We need Narendraji as PM only he can tackle this problem rightly.

  36. Posted September 12, 2011 at 5:39 pm | Permalink | Reply

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  37. smart man
    Posted January 18, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Permalink | Reply

    You Pandits are biggest natakbaz.You people are creating bad name for Muslims of Kashmir.It was Jagmohan who lured you to move out of valley so that he could kill muslims.You don’t deserve to live in Kashmir or any other place.you should go to tankanyika or Antartica……

    • Achal
      Posted January 19, 2012 at 10:43 am | Permalink | Reply

      Really? Muslims have no place in India, much less in Kashmir. Nor are places like Pakistan and Bangladesh muslim lands – muslims have destroyed the region through the relentless campaigns and looting. And they continue to perpetrate their backward and failed religion. Islam is the scourge of this earth. And far as Kashmir is concerned, it is India’s heart. Embrace it or leave it.

      • Posted July 20, 2014 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

        Nicely said said @Achal… these motherfuckers will never listen to good but they only follow JIHAD and struggle all the people not only in India but all over the world.
        how come one person from completely different religion or country could talk like this that Kashmir belongs to Hindus and India, During Independence it was ruled by Maharaj Hari Singh, and he is an Hindu. Kashmir is famous for many Hindu Temples… How could they think of Kashmir as their place… do not they have brains..?

  38. Priyadarshini
    Posted June 6, 2012 at 10:48 am | Permalink | Reply

    Please stop this …God has created us equally … When God has no discrimination among-st us.. Why we ? Religion s are just the different ways of worshipping God..Why to kill ppl on this basis ? Killthe person , just tat he worship God in other form,,,? plzz dont do this dear kashmiri bro.s. Lets live happily…lets others also live happily

  39. PD
    Posted June 13, 2012 at 11:34 pm | Permalink | Reply

    From the time of the Mughal invasion Muslims have tried to destroy Hinduism.Where now Masjids stand in Kashmir,there used to be beautiful temples.Muslims have always been invaders and destroyers,and you think this post will make them open their hearts.Do something.Kashmiri Pandits like me,you will not get your rights by forum,but by actions!

  40. Sufiyan shaikh hussaini
    Posted June 18, 2012 at 4:11 am | Permalink | Reply

    I agree with what umar mentioned but he spoke only .o1% about the scenario because of his limited knowledge but the true portion true picture has not yet discovered by any kashmiri pandit or kashmiri muslim.To discover that you first need to read more

  41. Mudasir Rasool
    Posted October 30, 2012 at 10:15 am | Permalink | Reply

    this is all bulshit
    pandits were never forced by terrorists to leave the state,
    they were tricked by then governor JAGMOHAN, and army was used against the pandits to leave the kashmir,
    Pandits were forced to leave by indian administration,
    if IT would have been true than why not the sikhs were killed and why not
    they left kashmir.

    • Ashish The Great Kashmiri Pandit
      Posted January 16, 2015 at 10:34 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I think it is u who is talking bullshit not we kasmiri pandits.
      never forget how badly the kasmiri muslims killed and due to whom how many of we kashmiri pandits fled.many were forced to change their religion into islam.and my advice to u mr. mudasir would be that please see in the past.

  42. Ajay Bhat
    Posted November 6, 2012 at 10:47 am | Permalink | Reply

    reply to dear freind Mudasir Rasool …..
    it is just a myth that Jagmohan forced Kashmiri pandits to leave Kashmir. I have below reason to say that :

    1) If it was planned move, perhaps all Pandits would have moved to one single place instead of getting scattered around the country. We never knew when my neighbor left & so does all
    2) Solangs like ” yahan kya chale ga… Nizame-Mustafa” and “ Batan hund beul khudayan gol ( means may God perish the seed of pandits ) by locals means that there is no place for us and you want us to leave our mother land
    3) 99 % people used local transport to flee, it means trucks/taxi owned used to flee was by local Muslims. why they allowed us to move. Had they good intentions they must have refused to take us out of valley .
    4) We never left kashmir over night or in one go. When you came to know that Pandits are leaving why there was no appeal made at leader ship level and ground level to appealing us to stay back.. what efforts were made so that pandits are convinced to stay back
    6) Why there was no condemnation of the posters asking Pandits to leave. why there was selective killing of Kashmiri Pandits.
    5 ) Jangmohan just ensured that we get food and shelter once we were forced to leave.
    6) I request all kashmiri Muslims to accept that it was their mistake to ask pandits to leave. There is nothing wrong in accepting & apologizing. We have large heart to accept your apology & forgive you all

    • Ashish The Great Kashmiri Pandit
      Posted January 16, 2015 at 10:36 pm | Permalink | Reply

      u r totally correct mr. ajay bhat.

  43. Imityaz Dar
    Posted November 13, 2012 at 7:26 am | Permalink | Reply

    As a Kashmiri Muslim, I feel the pain at what the Kashmiri Pundits had(and still have to) go through. Having grown up in Kashmir during the 1990s, I can confirm to the readers of this blog that Kashmiri Hindus (pundits) were forced out by a campaign which had large tones of religious fanaticism. As a humanity loving person, I will never forgive those Kashmir Muslims(or groups/organisations) ones who showed support for driving out Kashmiri Pundits. My percception of Kashmiri Muslim socitey changed for ever. Also many Kashmiri Hindus were brutally killed , mayn of them totally innocent, thier only crime was they chose a different way of reaching God. Even if some of them were Indian intelligence agents as claimed by the armed militants, did it justfy klilling them in the brutal way some of them were killed. Of course I am ashamed of myself and many people like me, who even though we disagrred with what was happening , were scared of the Islamic parties guns to protest. But I feel the pain of a second generation Kashmir Pundit, who could not see the place whewre his father grew up, or where he was born a baby.

    Though, we all know what a rouge agency the Pakistan secret services is (remember where Osama was finally caught), it will be a futile excercise now to decide how much of it was the Pakistan spy agencys doing, and how much was it local handiowork. But the fact is that a campaign of non-security was created for Kashmiri Pandits, and they had no option but to leave (posters aking them to leave, threatening slogans from loud speakers of mosques). The fact that it is now blamed on Jagmohan is plain propganda by some people. There are some naive Kashmir people who really believe it, for them I say, if there are such foolish people, no wonder we are in much trouble. Then there are other Kashmiri Muslims who are in denail, they simply decieve themselves that as a society they can be so cruel. Of course Jagmohan not being a un-realistic left leaning liberal,but a practical man, tried his best to lessen the Kashmiri Pundits suffering (his record to turn back Kashmir from insurgency was less distinguished).

    Now about the moral part of it. It gets more tricky. The problem is most of us human beings want it to be black or white, unfortunately reaity and history is more grey and shaded. Ponder this. Just because some Kashmiri Pundits used thier poximity to Hindu kings to thier advantage in the past , is no reason to hate them now for ever. They also gave muslim students some of the best teachers. Kashmir Pundits were there much before many of the current Muslims were converted to Islam. So many ancient temples in Kashmir are proof of that. Muslim rulers did many attrocities in the past on thier subjects , and many of them documented by history based totally on religious fanaticism. But have we not moved on. Should Hindus and others hold it against modern day Muslims of the sub-continent for ever. Also I can assure you that the attitude of a typical non-Kashmiri Muslim is totally different than a Kashmiri Muslim. By and large the non-Kashmiri muslims want to be like most other Indians to be part of the new middle class and the see on that Pakistan is going downhill day by day, by mixing religous Islam with day to day running of a country. Of course because of the ancient Hindu(pundit) influence and the influence of Sufi saints, Kashmiri Muslims have some tolerant characteristics as well (go to Kashmir University and see how many little are vieled or wear Burqa, versus a Village in Uttar Pardesh).

    The situation in Kashmir after 1989 was a culminaton of many factors. History: Kashmir was ruled by a hindu Maharaj Hari Singh like many other Princely states which were in-directly ruled by British. There was a generally agreed principle that in such cases the King should take a decision to join India or Pakistan, based on the majority of the populations wishes, proximity to India and Pakistan etc. Hari Singh has dreams of remaining Independant. At the same time a Kashmiri Muslim, Sheikh Abdullah had launched a movement against Hari Singh’s rule, which he thougt treated Kashmiri Mulsim subjects unfairly. What made it complicated was that Sheikh Abdullah was a litttle bit of an idealist and was influenced by Nehru. He did not want to have anything do with Jinnah’s Pakistan. Trusting niether Har i Singh or Sheikh, Pakistan clandestinely attacked Kashmir under the guise of tribals. Sheikh party men along with many local Kashmir Muslims (now National Conference) successfully pushed back many Pakistani raiders, but were ultimately too less for the invaders. The Pakistanis were about to take Kashmir, when Hari Singh finally woke from his slumber and pleaded India for help. To put a long story short, since Kashmir was legally undecided, Lord Mountabtten (the British Governal General), Nehru and the Indian Govt, negotiated with Hari Singh the “the Kashmirs accession to India” document so that India could send troops to help Hari Singh. Hari Singh signed the accession document. Historical records show that Mountbaiten, Nehru and others in the Indian Govt agreed that “Accession of Kashmir” to India by Hari Singh was to be ratified by the wishes of the majority of the Poeple of Jammu and Kashmir,as soon as normalacy returned. In fact given that the Plebiscite (asking people to tell thier preference for India or Pakistan) was to be held in whole of Jammu and Kashmir(all Hindus would naturally vote for a multi-religous India) , and the Muslim support for Sheikh Abdullah (who was strongly anti-Pakistan then) would have ensured an Indian Victory. When India took the issue to United nations, complaining about Pakistan’s aggression before the issue could be decided, this may be the reason(or may be also Nehru’s personal sense of fairness, though that is very difficult to judge objectively, given Nehru had emotional links to Kashmir) Nehru (or his envoy) promised in the united nations, that as soon as conditions return to normal, the fate of Jammu and Kashmir would be decided by asking the people. Though the BJP criticises Nehru for this now, the fact is that in 1947, Pakistan would have lost in such a plebscite and would not have agreed. What a fate of irony, that today India would not agree and Pakistan insits on it.

    What happened after that is more tricky and how people interpret the events, depending on which side they are. India singed an autonomy pact with the Sheikh, keeping defence, foreign affairs etc with India and rest to local administration. Article 370 was introduced barring outsiders from owning land in India (BJP’s Shourie argues it was temporary measure till Integration was complete with India and shouild go as quickly as possible, National Conference maintains this was one of the conditions under which the Sheikh possiby agreed to keep Kashmir with India). A couple of other India states except Jammu and Kashmir also have laws similar to 370. Pakistan kept on cultivating Kashmir leaders who could convince Kashmiris to join Mulsim Pakistan, and convince Kashmiris to vote for Pakistan if a plebiscite was held. Neverthless in the early years of Sheilkh Abdullah, they knew it would not be that easy. The Sheikh began feeling India was impinching too much of his autonomy, leaders like Shyma Prasad Mukhurjee, thought giving Kashmir autonomy was like creating a nation state in a nation state, Nehru beleived that Sheikh and the Kashmir people should be rewarded for saying no to Pakistn in 1947 and autonomy was one way of finding a middle ground. After sometime, misunderstandings began emerging between Nehru and Sheikh. It is difficult to know was it simply because the Sheikh was over-ambitous and was trying to strech beyond his reach, or was it simply because India got more insecure (or more greedy). The result was a showdown betwen Sheikh Abdullah and Nehru(and India). The Sheikh was jailed. India negotiated with other poltical parties in Kashmir (some genuine, some propped up). While Sheikh was in jail, elections were held, people voted, though there were reports of large scale rigging. Sheikh as released from jail sometimes, but now he started demanding plebscite to decide bwteen India and Pakistan. he even startrted having fantasies of an Independant Kashmir. Both India and Pakistan tried to court him. Now Pkaistan started saying all elected Govts in Kashmir were illegtimate and Plebiscite should be held. India now used all possible tactics to avoid plebscite.Two wars happened, status quo prevailed. Pakistan kept on saying Plebiscite should be held, as promised by India in United nations. India kept on saying that this was no longer relevant in the changed circumstances. Ultimately Indira Gandhi signed 1975 agrreemnt with Shiekh and Kashmir saw a peacfull period betwen 1975 and his detah in 1982. This is where again the gary and shaded history kicks in. Many Liberal and balanced historains believe that Shiekh genuinely beleived in a tolerant multi-religious society like Nehru in 1947, and only changed later due to mis-understandings with India or due to over-ambitousness. Cynics like me beleive, the Shiekh may have been influnced by Nehru, but he was over ambitous from the start, and all is wanted was to be the lone Power in Kashmir. He knew in JInnah’s Pakistan, he will lose his special status. But in India, he calculated playing the secular card, he had more bargaining power. Later on when he sensed, that India could not let him blackmail them for ever to depend on him, he became anti-india for a period demanding Plebiscite , but ultimately the lust of power made him sign the accord with Indira Gandhi and India (his admirers would say pragmastism and longing for peace, it is difficult to say who is right). Also many people observe even during Sheikhs regime, many of the party members of the National conference and many Kashmir people harbored Pro-Pakistani feelings (rejoicing when Pakistan beat India in a match). However the Sheikh did manage to control it enough between 1975 and 1982, that Pakistan could not start a full blown insurgency or uprising against India. But there was always a current of pro-pakistani feeling. Pakistn kept on demanding a plebscite, India rejected it or avoided it saying there was a elected Govt.

    After Sheikh’s death in 1982, Pakistan saw a poltical vaccum. Its intelligence agencies used the vaccum fully, brainwashed Kashmir young men that they should break from Hindu India. Some other events did not help. Jagmohan dismissed a elected Farooq Abduallh Govt in an undemocratoc and unskillfull manner. Later National Conference and congress under Rajiv signed an electoral agreement. Elections were massively rigged in favour of National conference and Congress. Had there been no National Conference-Congres alliance, the anger could have gone against only a local party- National Conference. But becasue of Congress, it became projected as anti-congress (a national party). Many oppostional candidates who contested the elections were mercillessley beaten by the ruliing National conference candidates after the elections. The Pakistani secret servcie agents fullly used it to thier advantage. Soon youth were going to Pakistan for training. Meahwhile, in order to contain communism, American policy makers had gone blind. They blindly trusted Pakistan Govt , army and secret services to find religious minded fanatics who could fight against Russians in Afganistan. This is exatcly what the fanatic, but cunning Zia-ul-haq needed to support his agenda of Isalamising the Pakistan army and socitey , creating a rapid anti-India campaign and finance his liberation of Kashnmir from India and in-doctrinate Kashmiri Muslims. Communism started collapsing at the same time, many countries started to break away from Russia in days. this also created the wrong kind of enthusiasm in Kashmir people to sepearte from India. Indian ilntelligence agencies were in-efficeint beyong belief, the Indian polititians were too busy in local politics. The poltical probelm of Kashmir (from 1947) started getting now mixed fully with Isamic fanaticism as envisioned by Zia-ul-Haq and Jammt-ul-Islami in Pakistan. Kashmiri youth in hunderds went in scores to train in Pakistan, bringing with them more religious intolerence. Kashmir HIndus (pundits) were driven out. The worst kind of religious doctrine and intolernce was mixed with anti-India feeling. A full scale militant insurgeny started. Militanst started having sophisticated weapons. Militants would attack army and ploice and hide in the civilian population. The civilan population did not always share (but somestimes did) the religious in-tolerance of the attackers, but shared thier anti-India feeling at a political level, gave the miltaints shelter after the attacks. Those who were opposed them did so out of fair of gun.It was clear at this stage (as it is clear now) that in any plebscite, the Kashmiri Muslims will decide to stay with Pakistan (though there might be some proportion of people, who having seen the decline of Pakistan in the yera 2000 and later, may also support Independance or support India, but a majority will still let emotion win over reason).

    However India was also determined now to hold on to Kashmir at any cost. If this involved firing on unarmed crowds, doing door to door searches, arbitrarily picking up people to get information, extra judicial killings of innocents (or people supected to be involved, but without any proof) to get information about militants and terrorists, so be it they thought. The fact that the civilian population often provdied shelter to the militants after attack, did not make it easy for the military. If two many civilians got caught in crossfire, it would give more propganda material to Pakistan and militants. Even though India out of this need to win the propganda war , and also because of presuure fropm Indian civil socitey groups did start acting in later years iwth restraint, the overall directive was to hold Kashmir at any cost and put the fear of Indian state in every Kashmiri. However it is incorrect to say that the Indian Govt did voilence (sometimes also rape) against malice towards a Muslim state. The Indian Govt was acting like any other nation state to hold on to territory. As as state the Indian establishement is one of the most tolerant govts in the world. It is just that police and army forces dealing with insurgencies are uniformly brutal in south asia (the Indian police and Pakistani police treats crimanals and people in a brutal and in-human way, in that India and Pakistan are same). The big difference is that in India civil socitey more actively to task, if there is a suspicion that brutality is not routine police brutality, but brutality against muslim minority in particular. In Pakistan, no body gives a damn about minorities.

    Now in sipte of all this , Kashmiris still want to join Pakistan, one has to see to whom does Kashmir belong morally. India’s case was in fact initially just , Pakistan tried to force the issue by sending tribals. However India after rightly or wrongly announced plebscite should have agreed to hold it. This would have forced people like Shiekh Abdullah take a clear pro-India or Pro-Pakistan stand, and India would not have been depend on him for ever. It is well possible that Shiekh would clearly instructed all Kashmiris to vote for India, as he hated Jinnah(for he believed he had mor ebargianing power in India), the Kashmir issue should have been solved for ever and India would have moral legtimacy. Of course it is possible that Pakistan would have avoided plebscite in 1947, or in the immediate couple of years. But India should have insisted on it, that would have called Pakistan’s bluff, forced Sheikh to take a stand. Cleraly either the Indian leaderhip that time was too in-efficient to do this, or it has ulterior motives to keep Kashmir (we will never know for sure, but naturally Kashmiris will believe that India had sinister motives – I agree the emotional response rather than logical).

    It is clear to me from logic, that it is in the best interests of Kashmir muslims to stick with India. They will benefit materially, our children will have a better future. In India, as always they will enjoy religious freedom ( i must say exactly duiring the peropd from 1989 till now there were record number of mosques put up, and I never saw India or militray forces stopping this, the same cannot be said of temples in Pakistan). Pakistni socitey is increasingly being torn by sectarin voilence, they have bred on a diet of voilence and medivalism by teh Pakistani army and Zi-ul-haq. I do not see a single reason why Kashmir should sign its own destruction on joining Pakistan. Yet many Kashmiri will let emotion win over reason and will still want Paksitan.

    Itsi clear from above analysis , that the Kashmir issue is not as strightforward as seems to be. Pakistan is also guity that it tried to force the issue by sending tribals, before Hrai Singh could decide in consultation with Sheilkh Abdullah and the people. India is als guilty in that India after rightly or wrongly having announced plebscite, should have agreed to hold it. Independant observers do not take the Indian execuse that India would hoild plebscite if Pakistan vacated the areas of Kashmir it vacated. Nor do they take the claim that India will break up if Kashmir goes to Pakistan. They see that it is an excuse by India to hold on to Kashmir.

    The ideal case would be make the borders irrlevant. But this pre-supposes a certain kind of forward lookiing and Pluralistic leaderhsip in Pakistan (which can also take its socitely along that decisiion). Though the Indian political class might develop a consensus on it, this will not undestandly happen, unless Pakistan develop such a ploitcal leadership. This solution has the advanatges that with the right kind of tolerant, pluralistic leadrerhip(Omar Obdullah’s party though opporunistic,even though he took a very opportunistic stand on Amarnath to fool Kashmir people, but personally he is above religious bias), the Kashmiri Pundits could return back and we could all live happily. But I relalise this is a dreamers solution.

    Another solution is close to what some in the BJP vajpayee Govt may have possibly agreed. Give the Kashmiri Muslim areas to Pakistan, but let Jammu and Ladakh be with India. Clearly Kashmiri pundits will lose thier ancestral homelands in this scenario, and even if some border areas between Kashmir and Jammu might be reserved for them, it will still be a loss for Kashmiri Pundits. But this has the adavnatge that this might be a solution acceptable to Indian public, and also take into consideration the anxiety the HIndu populations of Jammu have in living in an increasungly in-tolreant Pakistani state.

    Sad as it may seem, there seems to be no better solution than this. It does look very clam in Kashmir today. But what after Omar obdullah. Unless some libreral centrist party emerges besides National conference in Kashmir, and there is sensible leaderhsip in Paksitan, Kashmir will always be vulnerable.

    Meanwhile what advice do I have for my Kashmiri Pandit brethern. Do not be passive. Pro-actively highlight the in-justice met to you. Cultivate decision makers in all parties. Use international forums. Make them aware, you have treated un-fairly in your own country. The fact that Congress did not openly take the issue of Kashmir Pandits, is unfortunatly the new breed of political correctness which can be fatal to a country’s politics. Protect your self interest. Make sure you get a better deal in future negotioations, be united. But at the same time, do not succumb to the same hatred and fanaticism which some of the Kashmiri Muslims succumbed to. Do not let yourself be used as political pawns by other parties to garner anti-muslim hysteria. It is a tough balancing act. But that is the more mature choice. You want to remembered by history as the voice of reason in Kashmir. It is too tempting to join the street fight.

    Thanks
    Imtiyaz Dar, A concerned Kashmiri Muslim

    • Debennath Das
      Posted July 27, 2013 at 10:36 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Imtiyaz Dar,you are a genius .I have never read such a nice analysis.you are a true human,unbiased and really want a peaceful atmosphere in Kashmir.Your remark on political parties(BJP and Congress )quite accurate.Lastly your suggestion to Kashmir Pandits to remain firm on their demand without resorting to the path of terrorists is the only way to get back their lost land and to settle peacefully in Kashmir Velly.

    • sandeep ganjoo
      Posted August 30, 2013 at 9:28 pm | Permalink | Reply

      very good analysis done by u sir really very true human at heart , if all the muslims would have been like you then j and k would have been the number one state in indial in all parametere.

    • bharathi
      Posted May 3, 2014 at 6:30 pm | Permalink | Reply

      the best solution i came through so far. keep up sir

    • Ashish The Great Kashmiri Pandit
      Posted January 16, 2015 at 10:29 pm | Permalink | Reply

      i think imtiyaz dar ,u r one of the only few kashmiri muslims who feel guilty and are sorry for all the things which happened years ago.well said.

    • Ashish The Great Kashmiri Pandit
      Posted January 16, 2015 at 10:37 pm | Permalink | Reply

      i m happy that u r atleast apologising unlike others .

  44. Posted December 8, 2012 at 4:45 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Dear Veteran Sh. Rajinder S. Rajput

    Sub:- Veterans of India can launch NGO for also solving problems of Displaced Kashmiri Pundits

    This refers to your today’s email to me in which you have shown concern about plight of Hindus in Pakistan on the basis of letter from Dr Togadia, Adeshnath, Panchal, BKChaudhary, NKataria, Hemant Panchpor of VHP and the history of excesses the Hindus suffered in Kashmir and in pre – 1947 India at the hands of Muslim fundamentalists.

    In this regard first I want to mention the following :-

    (i)- Had the blood of martial element of both Hindus and Muslims flown together on the soil of India for the Independence of India from British Raj, then no communal force could have succeeded in partitioning India in 1947.

    (ii)- As one religion remains in more than one State similarly one State keeps more than one religion within the country. Therefore the martial element (the armed forces including its Veterans) which is the main basis of any State should never have bias in favor of or against any religion being practiced in the country (Hinduism, Islam, Christianity etc in case of India)

    (iii)- We should not put cart before the horse and first should solve Displaced Kashmiri Pundits (DKP) problem and then should solve the problems of Hindus in other countries

    (iv)- The following solution of the problem of DKP will have tremendous international implications and will solve the problems of Hindus in other countries too (Pakistan, Bangladesh etc).

    (v)- The following solution was tried in 2002 but Hindutva parties and organization of DKP ran away

    As far the problem of human rights of minorities (Hindus) in Pakistan, it is deeply related to Kashmir problem which will be solved only when either India militarily retrieves the territory of Kashmir from Pakistan or as explained in my earlier emails to you in which I sent my letters published in national and international media (also available at Kashnet Yahoo Group, scoop News, News From Bangladesh and at http://www.mynews.in/News/usa_unnecessarily_being_blamed_for_india_not_burying_1962_ghost_N493172.html and http://www.mynews.in/News/usa_rather_should_try_for_fsdr_of_sseaarc__N480847.html and http://www.mynews.in/News/different_approach_needed_to_analyze_bala_saheb_N517432.html ) .

    Therefore in this letter I will confine myself to the following solution of the problems of DKP, given below :-.

    (1)- As per Kashmiri Samiti there are 1.5 million DKP in India, out of which 5,00,000 (Five hundred thousand male female , children elders) of DKP are prepared to go back to Kashmir valley immediately.

    (2)- In 2002 the Shiv Sena (SS) tried to solve the problem of DKP by sending 5,00,000 Shiv Sainiks with 5,00,000 DKP to Kashmir valley on one to one basis in order to rehabilitate them in Kashmir valley in the face of fundamentalist terrorism in the valley [as per decision taken in a meeting in 2002 of 20 SS Office Bearers with 20 Executive Committee members (including President Sunil Shakdhar) of Kashmiri Samiti, Amar Colony Lajpat Nagar, New Delhi].

    (3)- In this 2002 meeting to the question of Kashmiri Samiti that what is the guarantee that DKP will not be killed in Kashmir Valley, the SS replied that there is no such guarantee but there is one guarantee that while defending the rehabilitated DKP the accompanying SS will lay down his life before any thing happens to DKP.

    (4)- The SS also told the Kashmiri Samiti that the accompanying SS will not be a financial burden on rehabilitated DKP but SS certainly expects that DKP and their Kashmiri Samiti will cooperate with SS in making survival of SS easier in Kashmir valley.

    (5)- But later on neither National leadership of Hindutva party nor Kashmiri Samiti (claimed to be the organization of 1 million DKP) took any interest worth the name and this idea was dropped.

    (6)- But now Hindutva forces (Dr. Togadia Adeshnath, Panchal, BKChaudhary, NKataria, Hemant Panchpor etc of VHP and others) and DKP can again try this solution with the support of Veterans (VOI) and should do the following.

    (7)- All the Veterans of India should come on one platform of registered NGO “Veterans Of India” (VOI) as per attached constitution.

    (8)- VOI should send 5,00,000 of its members with 5,00,000 DKP on one to one basis who will remain with DKP till they feel secured to live in Kashmir Valley.

    I am sure your goodness will take initiative to not only contact Dr Togadia Adeshnath, Panchal, BKChaudhary, NKataria, Hemant Panchpor etc of VHP and other Hindu Organizations and DKP to become members of this VOI in large numbers from all over India but will also ask all the Veterans of India too to assemble at some place (as the General Body of VOI) preferably in Delhi (NCR) at the earliest possible so that endless debates in this matter and crocodile tears of Hindus may give way to action – packed human rights programs and activities.

    Moreover once all the Veterans, DKP and Hindutva elements assemble at one place for this purpose then things will automatically work-out.

    Regards

    Yours truly

    Hem Raj Jain

    (Author of ‘Betrayal of Americanism’)

    S/72, Maya Indraprasth, J P Nagar Ph VI th, Bangaluru – 560078, India, Ph:- 080 – 41144997, 07829074704

  45. Satish
    Posted February 18, 2013 at 12:05 pm | Permalink | Reply

    for those who forgot…..

    24 Pandits killed in Kashmir
    March 24, 2003 11:29 IST
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    At least 24 Kashmiri Pandits were killed at Nadimarg village near Shopian in Pulwama district around midnight.

    Kashmir [ Images ] range police chief K Rajendra told rediff.com that militants came to the village, 75 kilometres from Srinagar [ Images ], late Sunday night and disarmed the policemen guarding the Pandits. One version said the militants were dressed in police uniforms.

    “They first snatched the policemen’s weapons and later fired indiscriminately on the Pandits. The police has recovered 24 bodies so far,” Rajendra said.

    Eleven women, eleven men and two children were killed by the militants who numbered about 25. The village has 11 Pandit families, comprising 52 people.

    Some policemen reached the police station at Shopian and informed their superiors about the incident, he said.

    The area has been cordoned off and massive search operations mounted. Police sources said the gunmen snatched weapons including four self loading rifles from the policemen guarding the Pandits.

    The killings are a setback for Chief Minister Mufti Mohammad Sayeed’s plans to establish a safe haven for members of the Kashmiri Pandit community driven out of Kashmir by militancy in the valley. The state government had drawn up plans to settle the Pandits around the holy spring shrine at Tullamullah in Srinagar district and Mattan in south Kashmir’s Anantnag district.

    After the January 26, 1998 massacre of 23 Kashmiri Pandits at Wandhama, Pandit villages have been provided security by the state government.

    Sources said the Pandits living in Nadimarg had not migrated to Jammu and stayed back in their village. Nearly 5,000 members of the community continue to live in the Kashmir valley.

    The victims:

    Bansi Lal(30)
    Rekha [ Images ](40)
    Chand Rani (60)
    Prince (23)
    Sameera(23)
    Geeta Devi(45)
    Suman Ji 925)
    Lassa Koul (70)
    Bibi Ji (22)
    Girja (23)
    Suraj (4 )
    Malu(5)
    Preetima Kumari (25)
    Reshi Koul (23)
    Devika (70)
    Radha Krishan (55)
    Bansi Lal (65)
    Triloki Nath (60)
    Avtar Krishan (70)
    Mohan Lal (60)
    Rakesh Kumar (29)
    Lok Nath (55)
    Omeet (29)
    Praduman Krishan (60)

  46. Sathish pandita
    Posted April 15, 2013 at 10:19 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I sathish pandita s/o madsudan pandita R/o chittergul is a non.migrant wants to draw kind attention of our C.M ,ministers ,concern MLA ,of shangus and other officers of district Anantnag as well top officals of state Government.Tell me why they did not intrested for the development,progress,employment etc.I want to know why government drop our two candidates from the list of non migrant package,why did not j and k government helps us in the construction of temple and why did not govt:sanction any kind of amount for our development.we are not human beings.For what purpose j and k government give us punishment. Is not it a punishment for being a hindues.Did not govt:wants our existance in the valley.Overall being a non.migrant i feel that 80% ministers and mlas not infavour returen of a kashmire pandit community in the valley.Espicalley M.L.A.shangus Peer Mansoor.thanks

  47. sanjay
    Posted May 5, 2013 at 8:00 am | Permalink | Reply

    Hi
    My name is sanjay.Iam agree with u.I also suffer lot of things.I lost my father and mother due to meg. I lost home in sringar.And live in jammu on rent.

    • Debennath Das
      Posted July 27, 2013 at 11:20 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Dear Sanjay,I am a non- Kashmiri Hindu.But I sincerely want homeless Kashmiris to return home.It is political weakness for which leaders ignore displaced Kashmir Pandits’ problem.If you can do one thing it will constantly create headache to leaders.Just form”Kashmir Government in Exile”.It will be a great slap on the face J&K govt. pinpointing their inefficiency.It is sort of a non violent protest but will be very effective one.Please have a discussion with others and try to materialize it.Please don’t ignore the suggestion and keep on writing me.dnd,deb2012@gmail.com

  48. Posted July 23, 2013 at 12:40 am | Permalink | Reply

    I am happy to know that Kashmiri people are liberal and mature.
    Yes I agree with the Kashmiri muslim people that they were badly treated during the Dogra rule. I agree on that. But I can say that both the sides suffered equally and I expect both of you should unite ..I mean Kashmiri Hindus must support their muslim brothers and the viceversa.
    I will be the happiest person if the kashmir problem will be solved .God bless you all ..

  49. shan kaul
    Posted September 18, 2013 at 1:24 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I had lately been to Srinagar, i am true Kashmiri Pandit at heart and true Indian.I have grown out side Kashmir but i still remember the old day when i use to visit my parental place during my child hood. I have been hearing stories from my parents about the culture, existence and i personally felt the pain all resident of Kashmir irrespective of there religion. I am not person from 1930’s or 1965’s nor i would like to get in forum of discussion to what Mugals did or what Sheikh Abdulla or Nehru did or what happaned during dogra rule or for a fact what the present political parties are currently doing. I understand & feel atrocities possibly faced by people ( I am referring to “PEOPLE “) not( Hindu or Muslim or Sikhs )from early days of Hari singh. Kashmir turmoil is not because of political gimmicks but due to its own people. The mental situation and agony people have been carrying againt each other whether post 1989 or before that, i personally belive it is human weakness which has lead to failure and stagnant growth of Kashmir as a state.
    I do not want to sound bias at this stage or at this point of time against any specific religious belief but all i would like to convey is that ,the times have changed & Kashmir as a state is still behind by 25years whereby all the other Indian states have achived marginal growth over a period of these times . Being a pundit myself, there could be possible % from my brotherhood or from other religion who may disagree with my thoughts since i may not have personally witnessed the same but all i want to convey is that it is time to move ahead.

    In above forum, i could notice people favouring Pakistan, but are people relising the fact that we are talking about going from Worst to Deteoriate conditions if such action are expedited by the govt in near future.

    Pak as country has not been in a situation to stablise its own condition since independence so what can be expected from such a detoriating country which has no vision of growth else than spreading or supporting terrorism.They have been unsuccessful to handle there internal messed conditions what vision are they going to provide to Muslim brotherhoods.

    I had this gentlemen aged b/w 27-28 driving our cab, i could relise what a common man is suffering in today’s Kashmir.
    During our travel he conveyed us that , they demanded independent Kashmir ( niether part of India or Pakistan). My point is with a population of only few lakhs and with only tourism as industry how do you plan to introduce changes if provided with independence.And we are not only referring to establishment of industry or comman men livelihood but also security of the state when you are engulfed by countries like Pakistan , Taliban supported Afgasitan.

    Post independence also, the livelihood cannot be continued only on above factors, we are talking about a fullfledged independent Kashmir as country.
    This is sensitive issue and requires long run vision not just a short and temporary solution of providing independence.

    During different instance of my travel period at Kashmir i could relise many local resident wanted pundits to returm to Srinagar, but the point is where and by whose support??

    I firmly belive for growth of Kashmir as a state we need to decided

    1) Strict course of actions.
    2) People who would be associated with this movement.
    3) A vision of growth and stabilisation
    4) Common men support to reliase the actions
    5) Most impoetant a Understanding and Common sensible understanding which can enhance the growth of the state.

    The world has changed and so is the thinking. I noticed lot of local resident sending there kids for further education and growth prospects outside Kashmir and with changing Ideologies what Kashmir is being discussed out here in the forum ????

    Are we taking about properties of pundit burnt and sold in a wiery condition at cheap prices or are we referring to comman local resident now suffering for there peaceful existence ??????

    I did see few comment above aginst Jagmohan plans of moving pundits of region, and i could relise few people opposing the same by possibly conveying that it was pre planned decision taken by the governor . I personally think nothing is important than a life of human being.If those decision were taken , possbily there could have been valid reasons behind the same . I do not think pundit ever wanted to migrate to any other state nor they still feel the same.
    It takes life to build your dream and a minute to destroy the same , the point is people migrated and they lost heavily whether its was materilistic or non materialistic.

    In above forum i noticed a gentlemen talking about Kashmir quota provided by goverment, i wanted to convey this gentlemen ” Sir 5:100 is not quoata worth appreciating but we still thank the govt of Maharastra who voluntarliy supported on humanatarian grounds and today with 100% literacy people have stood and come out of dark ages when every one suffered.

    I am sure there are still families who are still looking forward to comeback and relise there dreams and looking forward for prosperous life but with ongoing situations i am afraid peace loving people would still make up there minds to come back.

    I cannot provide you statistic of death toll either of Hindus Muslim, Sikhs, but can only provide you number of people wanting to have a stabilised economy and life at Kashmir.

    To a certain extent,i feel pandits need to come up as regional party representing the ” Return of Kashmiri ” for a stabilised growth .This will help eradicate notions of thoughts ” killings by forces of innocent people ” as quoated by local residents.
    The percentage mix of hindus and muslim would possibily bring stabilisation in the state and introduce +ve thoughts in exisiting population who are distraugted by the exisiting separatist parties who are purely Anti- Indian.

    And at the end all i would say is ” The growth of state is by its people and its vision not by introducing terrorism and being associated with devloped or developing countries.There is a history of under development from past 25 yrs due to terrorism and anti India notion, but let me ask what has been a result of these massacare till date. 1989 – It all started with Hindus, moved to Sikh and now Muslims, So why not end the same and bring in ladder of prosperity and growth of state and our nation.

    Message to locals- You are way behind by 30years of development, either think of growth then being called as deprived or neglected state.The choice is either associate with developed country or ruin future of your dear ones by neglecting +ve opportunity in your hand.

    Message to Pundit Its time to reunite from scattered pieces we have already dealt with losses now we need to look forward for our statehood and identity. We grew from stage where we lost and today world admires us for our obvious reason of being calm poised nature and highly educated class.

    I am sure with our vision and unity the chance are we bring development for each invididual irrespective of there religion.

  50. Amit
    Posted July 13, 2014 at 11:28 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Dear All,
    Whole world knows that kashmiri pandits are killed by local & pakastini militants in every part of Kashmir. All Kashmiri pandits are pressurised & harassed every day every minute & every second to leave that place. In that case Jagmohan has not any role, it is just propaganda by Mishevious muslims of Kashmir who had role in killing of kashmiri pandits. Kashmiri pandits are very social & not have faith in any kind of violence. Kashmiri pandits are always helping their kashmiri Muslims in many ways some of donate their lands to them, some are donate money to them, some are helping to providing them free education from years & years for future of Muslims. We always believe in brotherhood & every muslim knows it very well, but the truth is, always pandit community targeted by some kashmiri Mishevious muslims who have their own benfits in the name of like Pakistan, aazadi, yaha ke chelaga Mustafa. Responsible of killings of kashmiri Pandits,Muslims,Sikhs & Dogras are those who are involve of Miltancy in Kashmir.

  51. Amit
    Posted July 16, 2014 at 1:44 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Kashmir pandit houses looted & stolen every thing from their houses by the Mishevious local Muslims. Immovable property of kashmiri pandits grabbed & occupied fraudulently by local Muslims during migration, they had changed title ownership of KP fraudulently in their names. They had pressurise kashmir pandits to cell their properties to them on very less amount, they had collect all details of kashmiri pandit land from the revenue authorties, they had purchased one khasra no. & fraudulently they had added other Khsra No’s in the documents.

  52. Posted August 6, 2014 at 7:22 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I want the peace should return to the valley and non arrogant persons like Gilani who is Pro Indian Agent and Pro Pakistani Agent should be slaughted. Every month he receives a good amount from both India and Pakistan. He asks for shut down and middle class people become culprits. Why to abide by Hurriat or Abdullah’s. They should be thrown out of the state to a lonely place where they cannot get any thing to eat. Then they can realise the problem being faced by local kashmiri people.

    Regarding comments on Jagmohan, I strongly oppose that pandits were told to move out of kashmir by him. It was in 1989 end or 1990 beginning when posters were kept asking pandits to leave kashmir or to face consequences. I am my self victim of this. Around 50 militants with loaded guns came to kill me on 07th March ‘1990. Thanks to god our neighbours had left and I took shield in that house for the whole night and in the dusk, i took my mother along with me and left in a car. was it jagmohan who came to me to leave kashmir. Every body has mouth to speak and have right but speak the reality. Dont speak non sense things.

    With love
    Sanjay

  53. faithful
    Posted August 10, 2014 at 2:06 am | Permalink | Reply

    Muslims are fighting all over the world with christians, jews, hindus. please pray to God for Israel, Christians and Hindus who are being tortured. muslims want sharia law in the whole world.

  54. Abin Raina
    Posted August 13, 2014 at 11:01 am | Permalink | Reply

    Is this the unity of our community ?Still no more than 5-6 people ready to come. C’mon everyone, Make something out of this initiative, we are not telling you to fight, just a formal gathering. I’m sure if we get atleast 40-50 people to gather at the place, 50% of our job is done, So please i again request all those who are in delhi .. We are meeting on sunday 17 th aug central parkcp…. Inbox me urphone nos n names… ..it will be a first step for the revolution.. No more facebook aggression.. Time for action.. Time 12noon…Please make this initiative count, Share this as much as possible, wonders will happen.

  55. AJAY BHAT
    Posted November 23, 2014 at 11:05 pm | Permalink | Reply

    This is with reference to recent floods in kashmir. Being kashmiri I have full sympathy with my brothers who have no house to live , they are living in tents. I can understand this pain more as we kashmiri Pandits have gone through same difficult phase during early 90s. I do remember we also left our homes and lived in tents or 10 member family in one room. I can understand pain more deeply as it was very difficult to live in tents under 45 degree temperature and same there , they are living under cold temperature. We mate the same fate as far as education is concerned , we couldn’t enter exams as it was different session at Jammu. Same way exams have been postponed at srinagar. We left our houses during nights and floods came also during night suddenly. Pls don’t worry we are with you at this hour , only at times I think if this is Gods Justice. But whatever God will protect and shower us with love and brotherhood . keep us away from evils .

    At the same time let me remind all kashmiri Pandits that we were forced to leave our homes and blaming it on Jagmohan is a myth. Had it been planned migration , perhaps I would have same neighbours as I had in kashmir , we even didn’t knew about leaving of my next door neighbour , how come it was planned. Also in kashmir , most of transport is managed by Muslims, why they did not ask us not to leave when we were using their transport. How many times , an appeal by locals was made not to leave from local mosques. How could we stay there when slogans like ” Batan hund boul Khudayan goal ” and yahan kya chale ga Nizame e Mustafa ” were being made. A few kashmiri still living in kashmir are under seize and compulsion. our land in kashmir was either occupied or purchased at very low rates by giving false informations on actual rates. Even after 25 years there are no efforts for their return , only the issue has become part of one line speech at times. Let me tell you that while we want to return to Kashmir but it has to be with full dignity and unconditional apology from so called leaders. You have to also ensure return of our land illegally occupied by you. Do you have big heart to do that……or may be you will ask your masters across border first.

  56. Kapil Raina
    Posted January 8, 2015 at 6:06 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Kapil raina

    Our goal in life should not be to get back to kashmir…our goal should be to become good human beings, great spiritual beings as our ancestors were then whereevr we go, that place will become kashmir….lets advance in spirituality…lets liberrate ourselves from sufferings and misery…that should be our ultimate goal, be it kashmir or some other place, we need to live a peaceful happy life, our efforts should be that…let us not be obsessed with kashmir.nature does not wants us to be in kashmi, let us accept the decision of nature becuase it has good thing for us…let us raise above our petty discussions of kashmir kashmir kashmir……one day death will come to everyone whether u live in kashmir or anywhere else, so before death, let us realize who we actually are, let us expand our awareness…meditate….things will happen favourable to us automatically…

  57. Ashish The Great Kashmiri Pandit
    Posted January 16, 2015 at 10:39 pm | Permalink | Reply

    my thinking is that we should forget arguing

  58. Zaid Shaikh
    Posted April 14, 2015 at 7:28 pm | Permalink | Reply

    The Kashmir Pandit issue is an Indian Issue. I repeat again its an Indian Issue. Its a Pakistan vs India issue not a Hindu Vs Muslim. The sadpart is though that not many people of both Communities of this Diverse Country of ours have talked about it in detail. In this Age of FB I see Beef Ban, Hindu rashtra, Muslims Should be Denied Voting Rights, all these issues trending but no one Raises the issue about Kashmiri Pandits. More the Hindu Brothers the Muslims Brothers should participate in this movement and make sure all the Pandits go back to their Homeland and Peace Prevails and the Govt Launch a Full Fledge offensive against the Militants.

    I as an Indian Muslim – A Muslim whose brother an sisters are constantly harrassed and killed in gaza Stand with the Kashmiri Pandits.

  59. Zaid Shaikh
    Posted April 14, 2015 at 7:29 pm | Permalink | Reply

    This Issue really needs to be Sorted!

  60. Arun. Joshi
    Posted May 3, 2015 at 5:27 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Where were the so called Human Rights Activists when Kashmiri Pandits were getting mascaraed in the valley.
    Shame to one and All

  61. taufeeq
    Posted May 9, 2015 at 8:58 am | Permalink | Reply

    no need of pandits in Kashmir ,get out and go your Hindu state Gujarat

    • shan kaul
      Posted May 9, 2015 at 5:28 pm | Permalink | Reply

      @taufeeq – I guess your so called baseless and stupid statement would not help govt to change their thoughts.
      So why dont u do something worth for mankind.would advise you to either support change or fly to Pakistan or Iraq since ppl with your kind of mind sets are like rotten apple who are not eaten but are thrown in trash bins.
      Your are group of ppl who would prefer staying in drak ages since acceptance is change and change is what you dnt prefer because you know you cant stand on something rights so prefer staying behind the scene blabbering about same old issues.if you can’t do.some thing good.for others do something good for yourself by not passing such idiotic statment since it does not show your wisdom but shows your incapability of bringing in change for all.
      Personal advice worth million’s.act before its too late for you .

      • shan kaul
        Posted May 9, 2015 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

        @tafeeque again – on your so called statement . Rahmaat Ki beheek par jeena bandh karo phir awaz uchi karo.pandito.ke ghar par kabza karke baithe aur ghar ke maliko ko he bol rahe Ho gujrat jao.shukar karo pandit ne ghar aur Kashmir choda tho time sar par maakan Mila ,maakan ke saath unke saman Mila.Varna aaj bhi usi halat Mai pade rahte.apne Dum par kuch kiya hotha tho mante dusro ka cheen kar khana rahmet Ki bheek se kaam nai hothi.

  62. Raju kumar
    Posted July 31, 2015 at 10:20 am | Permalink | Reply

    Islamic society should be remove from Jammu Kashmir. It is the real place of kashmiri pandit.Muslim were not Indian,they came from Turkey and Arab.They are not indians ,they should be remove from India.

  63. Posted September 27, 2015 at 12:00 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Had it been any other community suffering complete ethnic cleansing in the name of azaadi , it would have choked but we did not .. we are survivors . ” jis kashmir ko tumne khoon se seencha wo kashmir hamara hai ” !

  64. Rajat Tiku
    Posted November 16, 2015 at 11:12 am | Permalink | Reply

    The big facade of Kashmiriyat – muslims & pundits being brothers is a big lie..The problem is with Islamic fanaticism. these people believe everyone is wrong and evil, and they are the most pious people. They have a problem with Christians, Jews , Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists. Why only Kahsmir, look at the last 1000 yrs of history of India the way these people have plundered, looted, raped our country. Who demolished thousands of hindu temples, looted them and killed people mercilessly. How many times Delhi has been looted and plundered. Who has been doing forced mass conversions since centuries…embrace islam or embrace death..who has given these gory slogans.what happend in Kashmir during Aurangzeb’s time..one unfortunate incident of demolition of babri masjid gives you the right to kill thousands of people. from those standards then hindus should have wiped you becuase we have no score of how many temples have been demolished in last 1000 years. if someone draws a caricature of your prophet you go all out killing people, but dont mind drawing naked pics of hindu god and godesses.. this is sheer hypocrisy…guys think what have you given to this world. Name one discovery of yours that has contributed to this world, on the contrary you guys have been harming the world peace. you have just become a cancer to this world. I feel sad and pity. I have read Quran, it is such a beautiful book. it teaches peace. the problem is these bunch of fools carrying guns have not understood Islam.

  65. biplab
    Posted November 25, 2015 at 10:01 am | Permalink | Reply

    The muslims of kashmir who are so much pro-pakistan than pro-india and have not supported so far any effort to bring back kashmiri pandits should know about historical and achaelogical facts. Kashmir, if they claim that it belongs to muslim population residing there, actually belongs to people of bharatvarsha, ie Hindus. Muslims of valley can educate themselves if they ever try to learn about the facts in history. Its only after 12th century that these muslims have invaded into india across hindukhus and north-western himalayas. So if anybody wants to debate on who are real residents of kashmir, then they should first educate themselves that its people of bharat/india.

  66. Rajesh Sharma
    Posted January 23, 2016 at 8:04 pm | Permalink | Reply

    As a native jammuite,i have been involved in very close conbersations with KPs.The pain they all suffered these years around is unbearable yet no intellectual came forward to support their cause…really disgusting.I believe that creating a strong organisation which can aim to organise protests every weekend especially in DELHI will certainly turn the deaf ears on.I assure that now being a student in Delhi University will try my level best to support you in every way possible.Jai Hind.KPs will get their rights..

    • admin
      Posted January 23, 2016 at 8:33 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Thanks Rajeshji for your support.

  67. P. Vaidyanathan
    Posted July 13, 2016 at 10:17 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Is there any body or forum to take care of ksdhmiri pandits at UN. If yes, what is the status. Why not interested persons appeal directly to UNO for the protection of pandits interest in Kashmir.

    • admin
      Posted July 14, 2016 at 6:03 am | Permalink | Reply

      GOI is representing Kashmir(including KPs) .As of today, there is no specific body that represent Kashmiri Hindus specifically.However in the past a KP group had represented the Kashmiri Hindu cause at UN.

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